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    September 8, 2010
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so you don't treat -- you don't learn how to cure something by not treating it. you treat it and i think that could have been the case here. >> again, thank you for telling the world about kyler and us, too. >> thank you so much for having thank you for telling the world about us too. >> thank you so much for having me. the 141st day of the deep water horizons disaster in the gulf. i'm keith olbermann, good night and good luck. ladies and gentlemen, here is rachel maddow. good evening. >> thank you and thanks to you at home for staying with us for the next hour. happy day after labor day, everybody. as the day after labor day, today is officially two things. it is the first day on which it is no longer okay to wear white. i'm talking to you. i can see you. it's also this. >> unofficial end of summer means the 2o 10 campaign season
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is in full swing. >> kicking into high gear with the official mark of labor day. >> it's the kickoff of the campaign season. >> labor day signals the start of the campaign season. >> welcome to the campaign season. >> i don't know why it's true, but it's always true n. any election year no matter what else happened all year, for some reason, labor day or the day after is when everybody agrees that the campaign season is in top gear. this is not one of the things where it's the common wisdom, it's not true. all you have to do is verify it is look at the president's schedule and know that the campaign season is in top gear. you don't have to close your eyes and imagine campaign obama. obama the campaigner is definitely back. >> i am going to keep fighting every single day, every single hour, every single minute to
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turn this economy around and put people back to work and renew the american dream. not just for your family and all families, but future generations. that's why, milwaukee today i am announcing a new plan for rebuilding and modernizing america's roads and rails and runways for the long-term. i want america to have the best infrastructure in the world! >> the sexiest word in american public policy. infrastructu infrastructure. as the economy continues to be not only the biggest issue in the country, but the democratic party's biggest liability heading into the elections eight weeks from today. expect to hear a lot more about infrastructure and president obama the campaigner talking infrastructure and economy and jobs. economy, jobs.
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economy, jobs. that's what we are going to hear. when it comes to the options the government has, nothing is a perfect solution, but spending money to rebuild infrastructure is an unout sourceable controversial thing. even republicans are in favor of infrastructure spending. back in the debate they claim to have wanted more of it. >> we do need more monoinfrastructure spending. we need more on the infrastructu infrastructure. >> 7% is on infrastructure out of $825 billion. we have an opportunity to double the amount of infrastructure. >> we're have an $825 billion bill. $90 billion is for infrastructure. >> this and other things, the democrats and republicans getting to and one thing we agree on with the spending package. it is for infrastructure. >> for there is one thing we can agree on is infrastructure.
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everyone agrees. naturally after president obama came out and proposed infrastructure spending, the republican leadership came out and now they are totally against it. according to house minority leader john baner "the white house has chosen to double down on more of the same stimulus spending." mitch mcconnell slammed it as a last minute kobled together bill that will not reverse the complete lack of confidence to help the economy. so much for the spending to be the one thing we agree on. they agreed until president obama proposed some of it and then they were against it. how can you say you are for spending on infrastructure and decide you are emphatically against it when it is proposed? what's next? republicans coming out against tax cuts? yes. tomorrow president obama set to
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announce $300 billion of corporate tax cuts of the exact variety that republicans are on record being in favor of. the biggest piece of this proposal is a $200 billion cut for companies to write off investment in new plants and equipment. you can just deduct anything you spend on stuff like that from your taxes. this is not exactly an original idea. it is done before and by republicans. they wrote off 30%. republicans raised it to 50% of equipment purchases. right now four senate republicans and they are cosponsoring to allow companies to write off 50% of equipment purchases. president obama is about to propose upping that to 100%, more than republicans ever dreamed of and the response from republican leadership?
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"president obama's latest plan should be met with justifiable skepticism." why? these are your ideas. that's one thing if you are not down with the business tax cuts and down with the business tax cuts on investing in equipment, but when that's your idea, why justifiable skepticism? it's your idea. there two possible things going on. one is president obama thinks that republicans are going to be uncraven enough to vote for things they say they are for. like tax cuts for businesses. if you listen to president obama these days, he does not sound like he is being that naive about that. >> even on things we usually agree on, they say no. if i said the sky was blue, they would say no. if i said fish live in the sea,
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they would say no. >> i think the president has been disabused of the notion they may vote for their own policies even if he proposes them. the other possibility is that this tactic, what president obama started doing now in this new campaign season is about showing, demonstrating that republican cravenness that republicans will reject their own ideas and denounce corporate tax cuts is obama is for them. >> for i said the sky was blue, they say no. if i said fish live in the sea, they'd say no. >> seems like he gets it. they say no. they, the case he is making to that crowd in milwaukee is about they. about republicans. republicans being crazy extreme in their opposition to him. you know who that argument resonates with?
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you know who it gets big smiles and applause from a crowd? you know who that works for and whoa that motivates in an election season and who it fires up and gets ready to go? the democratic base, the progressive base of the democratic party. remember them? >> i want to say thank you to the milwaukee area labor counsel skpil my brothers and sisters in the afl, cio for inviting me to spend this with you. >> thank you, afl, cio, labor roots of the democratic base. the most important dynamic heading into the election is the economy. the political dynamic is the yawning chasm that is the gap between the republican base and the democratic base that hasn't been motivated at all. democrats in the white house are ready to start working on that finally. they have eight weeks from
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today. tick tock, tick tock. joining us is ezra kline, staff writer for "the washington post" and msnbc contributor. >> good evening. >> policy-wise, what is president obama proposing this week that is so offense testify republican ideology? >> i spent time with this today. we have one tax cut meant to give businesses hundreds of billions to invest in equipment and another to give businesses hundreds of billions on research and development. we have the small business bill which is $30 billion to get money lept to them and the bill that will be about $50 billion deal. states and local businesses. this is a business-friendly package proposal. they are not that big. based on republican proposals and the problem is they are not coming from a democratic president and we are eight weeks
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from an election. the president bush is not idea logical. >> house majority leader john boehner responded by saying this. they don't address the two big problems hurting our economy. excessive government spending and the uncertainty that washington democrats policies are creating for small businesses. i hear you that it is an electoral argument that they are making, but i don't understand the case that he's making. what is this uncertainty argument? >> i tried to track this down. you get -- whenever you talk to a business guy, here's what they tell you. what i would like is if the government were more certain to do the policies i would like them to do. they said what they needed to invest was an energy bill like the one democrats wanted to do and the republicans blocked. others like tax cuts and certainly the business community
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would love to have the r&d credit expand and made permanent. that is a major source of uncertainty. now it's going and of course there is the question of government spending. if you are a grocery store near a school and teachers shop there, the uncertainty is that the state will fire the teachers and they won't shop there. you go on and on down the line and the biggest uncertainty businesses are facing is that they will not have customers. the things that the government does which they have the money to do the things they do or pay the money they need to hire and expand that reduces uncertainty. what republicans are worried about is winning the election and that comes if you say president obama heard the message of the voters or our message and they have good ideas here. that is not a winning message for the opposition party going into election. >> let me ask you about a specific angle on what the president is proposings.
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i am open about i love infrastructure because i hate bad infrastructure and it makes sense from a national strength and resilience point of view. what is this infrastructure bank idea that president obama is talking about? what is the bank? >> infrastructure is set by a couple problems. the infrastructure that will be four southwestern say thes. it's hard for arizona and california to get together, but we have a great way of doing the congress. the bills don't come up and we wait for stimulus and go into earmarks. the earmarks would be politically appointed and inflated appointees. they would be appointed by the senate and couldn't take them out that easily. they would get feed money which they use to leverage up and make loans to good projects and a way of speeding this along. prioritizing effectively. >> from t"the washington post"
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>> you know the expression the enemy of my enemy is my friend? that could be changed to the enemy of my enemy is a fraud. the third party candidates are all ahead. are
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when i was growing up in california i play said a lot of sports. insert gay joke here. there is a political point. i started off playing lots of sports including basketball and soccer and i'm not proud of this, but i was a rough player. i think i compensated for not being a great player by having sharp elbows. i fell out of more games than i managed to stay in. there was one rule i always remembered. one rule we always remembered. it's about the 50 thing you learn in kids sports. when you are done trying to knock the jesus out of each other, you are supposed to lineup and shake hands and say good game and wish your opponent
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well. that's the way it's supposed to go. in kids sports and adult sports and especially the parts of life that are analogous to sports like electoral politics. this year a lot of candidates on one side of the aisle were hiding out in the minivan when coaches were trying to teach them sportsmanship. a surprising number of republican who is lost are refusing to go along with the campaign version of shaking hands. the dreaded unity rally where the candidates endorsed whoever won the primary so it will be unified for the general election. after john mccain beat j.d. hayworth, he not only did not endorse senator mccain, he did not show up at the unity rally. the people kept attacking j.d. at that unifying event. the same happened in florida
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where rick scott beat bill mccollum for governor. he did not endorse rick scott and said he thought that mr. scott was dishonest. in florida they canceled the rally rather than put on a sham. in nevada, sue laud on lost to sharon engle and engle refused to endorse and skipped the unity event there as well. after we reported the stories, they think progress found a bunch of examples. in washington the senate primary defeated the republican refusing to endorse the republican nominee. in missouri the candidate refusing to endorse the republican. it was no endorsement or skipping for losing candidates for congress in south carolina, washington, pennsylvania, indiana and kansas. also in the governor's races in iowa and south carolina. it turns out what we have spotted is not just a trend, but almost the new normal.
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tea party favorite lost the senate primary in washington. he is still with holding his endorsement and tells the herald i want dino to win in the worst way. not that i wouldn't endorse him, but he has to reach out to the voters. he also invests that he adopts the position because hey, when you want your opponent to win in the worst possible way, you should saddle him with the losinging agenda that doesn't get you through the primary. at least they are opting to shake hand fist he gets what he wants. in alaska, they decided not only is she not going to shake hands, but not only going to quit playing. lisa lost in the primary to a tea party-backed candidate. they did not endorse mr. miller. now the senator told the associated press that despite
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losing that primary, she is not a quitter and still in this game. it appears they are testing the idea of running against joe miller again. this time perhaps on these state's libertarian party lines. reporters met with officials from alaska's libertarian party to ask about the possibility of beinging the candidate and telling the anchorage paper that the senator might as well try to climb mound mckinley. get out the ice actions. alaska's current candidate sat down with senator to talk it over. he may be open to giving up his spot on the ballot if he told the alaska dispatch that the republican senior senator agrees to be the libertarian senior senator with sincerity and for real. trying to understand what that might mean, i spent quality time
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with the campaign website which is david for alaska.com. honestly i'm not sure what a lisa conversion to for real libertarianism might mean, but he said he has "hunted caribou and observing determination. we will be observing to stay in this race in the days ahead as well as the beltway media's determination not to report on the candidates openly hating on each other eight weeks before the election despite the evidence that they are. and when it does, men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a clinically proven low-dose tablet you take every day,
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>> as we have been talking about, there is an epidemic of sore loserism in this election. candidates who lose and can't accept that they lost. they refuse to congratulate or endorse the candidates who beat them. in addition, we are witnessing this year candidate who is simply freak out other republicans. in louisiana for example, bobby jindal found himself unable to endorse the hooker guy in the bid for reelection. in colorado, dan mays, the amazing nominee for governor who claimed falsely he was once a
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secret agent in kansas. now they want dan mays to dropout of the race and even ken buck, the tea party-endorsed candidate for senate in colorado withdrew support for mr. mays. the most extreme case of republicans being freaked out by one of their own is happening in the great state of delaware. the primary is a week from today and christine o'donnell is taking her second stab at the united states senate. to get to the general election, she must defeat a long time congressman and governor of the state, the choice of the gop establishment. a group that invested in joe miller's far right campaign in alaska is supporting christine o danle in delaware and in any normal year, he would be a shoe in and not only brought us
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mr. miller over mrs. murcowski, but paul and candidates who would be human interest stories who this year are beating establishment republicans in primaries all over the country. christine o'donnell and her history of com paining against things that don't get discussed on cable news now must be discussed on cable news. in her former job describing herself as the president and founder of the saviors alliance for lifting the truth, christine o'donnell told an mtv interviewer that conservators were not going far enough. it is not enough to be ab sti nent with other people, you have to be ab sti nent alone. the bible said lust in your heart is committing adultery. you can't -- a word that rhymes
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with congratulate without lust. as interesting as her opinions are on how people congratulate themselves is a november 1998 article she wrote called the case for chastity in which she began "adolph hitler once said to engineer a society, you must first engine the language. we can see the unfolding in our society. our society's sexual liberation has released a lexicon. gay meant joyful or gleeful until the homosexuals got ahold that was word like hitler did." she talked about the past run for the senate and the claims caught up with her in a disasterous interview with a conservative radio host in our home state. >> when you were speaking@out of state group and you said that you won two out of three counties in delaware, what did you mean?
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>> i don't think i ever said i won two out of three counties. >> hold on a second. i have the audio. >> in 2008 against biden and i won. didn't have the support. >> you said you won in two counties. >> that are probably was here on the campaign trial. i meant tied. you are waiting for you to trip up. >> i'm just saying why you didn't tie him either. >> absolutely i did. >> no, she didn't. she really didn't. didn't. didn't. miss o'donnell is not a new candidate. she ran and lost two years ago. extreme views did not make the radar then are the use that got another candidate the nomination this election cycle. many of them destined to be senators in january. their fellow republicans in some
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cases are freaking out about it. the senior reporter for talking points memo and the candidate if to a national audience, thanks for joining us. >> thanks. >> have i missed anything that republicans are worried about in terms of her as a potential nom sidney. >> yes, actually. a few things. we haven't mentioned them. her college education is an issue and this came up in recent stories, but also her finances. she is paying off debt from the campaign and there questions about the way she is raising money and should have that is going to pay off the debt and looking at her own personal finances and republicans have quietly made this an issue as they worried that she might be. >> did she tell the weekly standard that staffers have looked through her bushes?
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>> yes. i'm not sure if that was the exactly quote, but people have been following her home and people are looking if the in the bushes and people need to check that. that's a conservative and friendly publication. a lot of them are pointing to what's going on. huh a supporter of her questioning the sexuality. she sdansd herself from that and repeated the allegations several times in press releases and interviews. there is definitely a lot going on and republicans are worried she is not ready for prime time. >> how realistic are her chances? in a normal election year, she being the kind of candidate she was the last time she ran, she was beat uh soundly by joe biden. this is not a normal election year. >> delaware has been a blue state in national elections. biden held that seat for decades. mike castle has been elected because he earned from independents and democrats who
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respected his record. he had a moderate record. this is a closed primary and you have to be a registered republican to vote. there could be as few as 50,000 voters that. is far less than came out in alaska for example and not necessarily used to having competitive primaries. anything can happen. you throw in the tea party endorsement and o'donnell is hoping for an endorsement there and everybody is spending a lot of money in a state not used to seeing competitive advertising. anything can happen. >> senior report for talking points memo is doing a great job. thanks for joining us. >> very a great night. >> the chairman has found a way to kickoff the campaign season with a very expensive means of keeping himself totally out of the way and in the news at the same time. michael steele is amazing. coming up.
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>> we learned that there federal
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investigations under way of violence or threats against muslims including the stabbing of a new york city cabdriver and arson for a future mosque in murfreesboro, tennessee and graffiti in arlington, texas and a brick thrown into a window in madera, california and an incident in water port, new york after the son of one of the founders of a local mosque was side swiped by a car a few days after a shotgun was fired into the air near the same mosque. today's announcement of the investigations alongside statements of concern from washington. over the planned actions of one tiny fred church in florida. the congregation is a small one in gainesville, florida that likes the funeral picketers in kansas and revels in doing stuff extreme enough to attract
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condemn nation. what this congregation has done now is declared on september 11 this year on saturday, they will burn 1,000 copies of the koran. why? so people will say the name of their congregation and pastor on television. i can't stomach it. general petraeus expressed concern that u.s. troops could be targeted in red bugz for a koran burning. robert gibbs and p.j. crowley echoing the concerns. the diplomats in several countries reported small scale anti-american demonstrations. the news starts to travel that in america, that's why they burn the koran. joining us for the interview is the reverend. he is say baptist minster and president of the interfaith alliance and the coalition on mosques, part of the group that met with eric holder to talk
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about the incidents this afternoon. thanks for being here. >> thanks, rachel. >> you can tell us about your meeting with the attorney general? >> it's interesting and a very personal meeting. we met with him to talk about ways in which there could be a legitimate partnership between religion and government and 1 that work and doesn't have an exchange of money in it. we ask him to be thoughtful in looking at people disa baying the law from the perspective of religious bias, prejudice, hatred. to be very faithful in prosecuting those who commit hate crimes and let the american public know that we are going to as a nation protect people's right to worship as they please and that people who try to stand
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in the way of the constitution will be arrest and prosecuted. we ask him for a high visibility from him and from the president in talking about the crisis that is developing with the rise in hatred and anger towards islam and towards muslims. we ask also that the justice department coordinate efforts from all cabinets on the president's staff to see that everybody in the administration was working on this particular issue. i found him to be very attentive and very responsive. in a way that was convincing. >> i'm reluctant to talk about it in the introduction and almost reluctant to ask you about it now, but i feel like i have to. this small extremist congregation in gainesville planning to publicly burn copies
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of the holy koran, on the occasion of september 11 because it's september 11. did that come up and did he address that? >> for did come up and i can quote him with permission. he said that the act is both ignore ant and dangerous. i agree with him. i had the privilege this afternoon of being on an interview with an international network that broadcast primarily in the mideast. i said to them what i wanted to and what i would say to our nation as well as about that event, rachel, that is neither a patriotic act nor a religious act. i don't have the vocabulary to denounce the intent or the action going on in that church.
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it is dangerous for our nation abroad. it is disrespectful of our constitution. it certainly represents no religion i know and particularly christianity it doesn't represent. there is no way that should take place. >> do you have any sense of why this is happening right now? there wasn't this sort of violent upsurge in this way after 9/11. do you have a sense of why it's happening now? >> i do. on the one hand, rachel and you document it all the time. we have a lot of people who are angry. they are not angry about islam. they are angry about the economy and the loss of jobs and all that. we had people step in and manipulate this situation in a way to increase that anger and give people a way to focus it
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and the focus is on islam. look what's happening to our nation. we are losing our christian base. they are bringing in these people who are different and different is an immoral act, obviously. you know this. i'm sure. we have politicians trying to advance their own partisan careers by dividing this nation on this religious issue. it is inexcusable. >> reverent and president of the interfaith alliance and the interfaith coalition on mosques and my friend, i'm happy to see you. thank you very much for being here. coming up on countdown, the noticeable absence of support from the right for general petraeus. on his review of the burn a koran day idea. next on this show, where in the world is michael steele on this unofficial first day of the election season. hint number one, not in hawaii.
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hint number two, she wearing a lei.
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during the push for elections, where has michael steele chosen to exercise leadership? think of a place where the center of the political action is right now and then get on a plane going the other way and then stay on that plane for a long, long time. there he is. that's next.
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the political calendar has flipped over. past labor day and 8 weeks from the election, we are in campaign season. it's in fits and starts all year long, but after labor day, no argument. it is clear for everyone in politics and everyone has their game face on. you see it in the president's schedule. he campaigned in milwaukee and tomorrow in cleveland. you see it in the life schedule and the low expectations for what congress will be able to do in the election. in this campaign season with expectations as high as they have been in nearly 20 years with more opportunity out there than in any other recent election, the republican party's leader, the national chairman embarked on his own somewhat mysterious season strategy at a time when parties are fund-raising as fast as they can and a time when pears are triageing, cutting off candidate
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who is don't have a chance, every available headliner to help the candidate who is need that last few weeks of help. at the most key time, the republicans most key election in years, the republican party's chairman, michael steele has gone to guam. he just got back from puerto rico and the virgin islands and today he has gone to guam. tomorrow off to the northern islands. famous for the republican lobbyist corruption scandal and being really, really really far away. the continental united states here, hawaii here, guam and the islands all the way over there. that's where the chairman of the republican party is right now. you heard of the southern strategy? this is their very, very very far western strategy.
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neither the northern islands nor guam or puerto rico or the virgin islands send voting members to congress given that there elections in weeks. congress is what you think the chairman would be focused on right now. this is not just any republican party chairman. this is michael steele. the island territories might not be allowed to vote for congress, but they are allowed to vote for who gets to be chairman of the republican party. if you are a donor to the republican party, the bad news is eight weeks from the mid-term, the money is being used to fly him to four separate island nags that do not get to vote for a member of congress mt. mid-term. on the other hand, if you are a republican party donor, the good news is weeks from the mid-terms, michael steele is in guam. nado hits, air life denver takes off... their night-vision goggles keeping the rescue mission safe... and powering those goggles-- the only battery air life trusts: duracell. trusted everywhere.
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allow me to introduce you to a campaign strategy in the great state of arizona. this is 20-year-old guitar player benjamin percy who is run figure are a seat under the green party ticket. this is thomas meadows, a 27-year-old ta rot card reader. everyone call this is one grandpa who is a green party candidate for state senate. the free spirited candidates brought to you by according to today's "new york times," a political operative who admits this my syphon support from the democrats. this is a story we have seen before in the dirty tricks. the exploitation of dirty tricks, it's a genre all its
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own. you might remember the third party candidacy of one ralph nader not in 2000, but 2004. at one point, nearly one in 10 of the major donors so happened to be bush-cheney donors as well. i wonder why. in 2000, operatives in new jersey took credit for getting a candidate on the u.s. senate race for trying to drain votes. of course roger stone, the famous for being famous trickster who was proud of having learned trickery from the nixon administration, he pulled the trick on a scale in 2000. he recruited pat buchanan and donald trump who attacked mr. buchanan as having a love affair with adolph hitler before mr. trump himself got out of the race. the book end candidates to
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attack and trace each other that result in a stronger party with no threat. this happens a lot. unless we switch to the system we call instant run off voting or australian voting where if the first choice doesn't win, give my vet to the second choice. they are spoilers in the two major party system and that creates incredible incentives. the third party is a means of syphoning off votes from the major parties. we see them with the green party to syphon voes from democrats. this is one of the rare mopes in politics where the beltway media device was saying it happens on both sides. it's true. just as the "new york times" is highlighting this instance of third party expectations.
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with the green party candidates, the detroit news is reporting on a democratic dirty tricks case. democrats having tried to qualify fake tea party candidates. a democratic official notarized afts and get the tea party candidates and was the same firm they used for the drive in the past. they were born in 1990 and ineligible to hold office in the state or to drink for that matter. for once this thing happens on both sides, this is true. there is one important caveat. what's the difference in the out come between the arizona green party dirty tricks and the michigan tea party democratic
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dirty tricks? the reason they are reporting on the tea party candidates is because they will not be on the ballot. the attempt at dirty tricks with a third party line did not work. in arizona, complaints have been filed by democrats and real green party folks. right now as it stands, that michigan tea party with the ineligible to serve 20-year-olds that will hurt the republicans and help the democrats will not do anything. it was a fat failure of a democratic dirty trick. why did it fail? whoever put together the petitions to get the 20-year-old on the ballot didn't put the name of the party in 24-point font as required by law. the presumed dirty trick filled and the republican dirty trick appears to have worked. if you want to know why, it's not about following directions. there is one other important detail that tells you what need
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to know about why it works for republicans and not democrats. when the fingerprints were found to be all over that michigan tea party thing, the two party officials seen as most responsible for the trickery which aring those that notarized the affidavits. one resign skptd other was fired. the democrats responsible for the dirty, sleazy trick in michigan resigned in shame or were kicked out by the party. the counterpart with the guy who recreted the homeless people with the guy that ran under the green party to hurt democrats sheer, he is not only not ashamed, but has his picture in the new york times and brags about what he has done. everybody does dirty tricks and one side is teaching it so long, they are actively proud of it and brag on it for political